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	<description>It&#039;s a bit of a hill!</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-2/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live within view of moel famau, and I support the idea! I think it would be good fun for people, bring people to the area and possibly help attract more people to come to places like the collomendy which nearly shut before kingswood moved in!  And I do like a walk up the mountain .... But there are others to walk up.... Or build it on another but either way it should be built! That&#039;s my opinion anyway and that&#039;s all from me. 
It&#039;s asif some of you on here just want to argue with people who do want it! And  yes meic is a little weird but I don&#039;t think he thrives on being unpleasant ha ! Just man up Brendan !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live within view of moel famau, and I support the idea! I think it would be good fun for people, bring people to the area and possibly help attract more people to come to places like the collomendy which nearly shut before kingswood moved in!  And I do like a walk up the mountain &#8230;. But there are others to walk up&#8230;. Or build it on another but either way it should be built! That&#8217;s my opinion anyway and that&#8217;s all from me.<br />
It&#8217;s asif some of you on here just want to argue with people who do want it! And  yes meic is a little weird but I don&#8217;t think he thrives on being unpleasant ha ! Just man up Brendan !</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-2/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you all need to chill out, perhaps a good run on a zip wire would do you the world of good :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you all need to chill out, perhaps a good run on a zip wire would do you the world of good <img src='http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have the right to express their views and opinions of developments that may affect their lives,  no matter how trivial it may appear to others. I couldn&#039;t agree more with the opinion that official objections need to be constructive and based on hard evidence, otherwise they will be thrown out before they&#039;re even considered. However, on a public forum like this, people have every right to vent their feelings and views on a matter close to their heart, whether that be emotive or otherwise. Nobody should be labelled or publicly humiliated by those who consider themselves on a higher moral plain, especially when they appear to have no view on the subject one way or the other. I&#039;m a regular user of internet forums of all types. Without exception, there are always one or two individuals who spend all of their time attempting to belittle their fellow forum users, and next to no time engaging in discussion and being a pleasant contributor - mostly because they have no apparent interest in the topic. I often wonder whether these people could possibly act like this away from the safety of their computer screen.

As a non-local, I am keen to read the views of those who are potentially seeing changes day to day, whether they be valid or not. Whether people want to support the proposal, object constructively, or object hysterically, just let them be. I&#039;ve made sweeping statements earlier in this discussion, and I&#039;ve accepted the error of my ways and moved on. 

Let&#039;s get this debate moving constructively without resorting to sarcasm and unpleasantaries. I notice that it&#039;s been very quiet on the official Go Ape @ Moel Famau website recently and the company haven&#039;t responded to comments for quite a while. On the surface, it may appear that the uproar has died down although I&#039;m confident that those who care about the results of this scheme, good or bad, are putting in a lot of effort behind the scenes. Credit to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have the right to express their views and opinions of developments that may affect their lives,  no matter how trivial it may appear to others. I couldn&#8217;t agree more with the opinion that official objections need to be constructive and based on hard evidence, otherwise they will be thrown out before they&#8217;re even considered. However, on a public forum like this, people have every right to vent their feelings and views on a matter close to their heart, whether that be emotive or otherwise. Nobody should be labelled or publicly humiliated by those who consider themselves on a higher moral plain, especially when they appear to have no view on the subject one way or the other. I&#8217;m a regular user of internet forums of all types. Without exception, there are always one or two individuals who spend all of their time attempting to belittle their fellow forum users, and next to no time engaging in discussion and being a pleasant contributor &#8211; mostly because they have no apparent interest in the topic. I often wonder whether these people could possibly act like this away from the safety of their computer screen.</p>
<p>As a non-local, I am keen to read the views of those who are potentially seeing changes day to day, whether they be valid or not. Whether people want to support the proposal, object constructively, or object hysterically, just let them be. I&#8217;ve made sweeping statements earlier in this discussion, and I&#8217;ve accepted the error of my ways and moved on. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get this debate moving constructively without resorting to sarcasm and unpleasantaries. I notice that it&#8217;s been very quiet on the official Go Ape @ Moel Famau website recently and the company haven&#8217;t responded to comments for quite a while. On the surface, it may appear that the uproar has died down although I&#8217;m confident that those who care about the results of this scheme, good or bad, are putting in a lot of effort behind the scenes. Credit to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: ann</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Brendan,
Must be the reason behind the need for the all bran that makes him so nasty and unpleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Brendan,<br />
Must be the reason behind the need for the all bran that makes him so nasty and unpleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you thrive on being unpleasant Meic? Does it give you a buzz to ridicule and demine others? Are you like that with people in the flesh, or only when you don&#039;t have to face people in the flesh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you thrive on being unpleasant Meic? Does it give you a buzz to ridicule and demine others? Are you like that with people in the flesh, or only when you don&#8217;t have to face people in the flesh?</p>
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		<title>By: Meic Nant</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Meic Nant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest news - major panics within the ranks of the Nimbys Who Live Up The Hill, one of them has &quot;discovered&quot; that the digging work by the old bus stop in Tafarn Y Gelyn is really a &#039;secret access road to the Go Ape site&#039;. I laughed so much I choked on my All Bran. I bet there is so much panic and anxiety going on up there, the good doctor must be doing nightly rounds with valium and buckfast tonic wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest news &#8211; major panics within the ranks of the Nimbys Who Live Up The Hill, one of them has &#8220;discovered&#8221; that the digging work by the old bus stop in Tafarn Y Gelyn is really a &#8216;secret access road to the Go Ape site&#8217;. I laughed so much I choked on my All Bran. I bet there is so much panic and anxiety going on up there, the good doctor must be doing nightly rounds with valium and buckfast tonic wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bushman</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave our OANB alone. I frequently walk around the proposed valley location and it&#039;s currently very peaceful. Interesting to hear from Meic about Denbighshire Council&#039;s probable attitude. 
If there&#039;s a need for this, and I&#039;ve a feeling that this sort of thing is unstoppable, then I think they should be persuaded/told to use areas which have already had some interference. e.g. why don&#039;t they jump into bed with the mountain bike fraternity where a great deal of the infra-structure is already in place...road access, car parking, toilets and excellent cafes. Such locations are 
Coed Llandegla  (not too far away),
Hiraethog (a bit further, between Llyns Brenig and Alwen)
Coed y Brenin (further, N of Dolgellau) ,
or look at say the Clocaenog Forest area, part of which has already been messed up with a windmill farm. 
Denbighshire Council will still be in pocket for three of these locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave our OANB alone. I frequently walk around the proposed valley location and it&#8217;s currently very peaceful. Interesting to hear from Meic about Denbighshire Council&#8217;s probable attitude.<br />
If there&#8217;s a need for this, and I&#8217;ve a feeling that this sort of thing is unstoppable, then I think they should be persuaded/told to use areas which have already had some interference. e.g. why don&#8217;t they jump into bed with the mountain bike fraternity where a great deal of the infra-structure is already in place&#8230;road access, car parking, toilets and excellent cafes. Such locations are<br />
Coed Llandegla  (not too far away),<br />
Hiraethog (a bit further, between Llyns Brenig and Alwen)<br />
Coed y Brenin (further, N of Dolgellau) ,<br />
or look at say the Clocaenog Forest area, part of which has already been messed up with a windmill farm.<br />
Denbighshire Council will still be in pocket for three of these locations.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheik Meic</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheik Meic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make me laugh Meic.
You&#039;re as mad as a rabid badger, but I likes you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make me laugh Meic.<br />
You&#8217;re as mad as a rabid badger, but I likes you.</p>
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		<title>By: Meic Nant</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Meic Nant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its no good going on and on about AONB. Nearly half of the AONB&#039;s Council is made up of reps from Denbighshire &amp; Flintshire County Councils. Both Councils will do well financially from Go-Ape&#039;s proposals, as will several other interested parties represented on the AONB&#039;s Council.  Denbighshire in particular is such a money grubbing enterprise, if the could charge people for the wear and tear of the air on the mountain they would. No matter how shrill or hysterical we wail, it will be of no avail against serious financial interests. I have said before and will say again, the fate of a few daft birds and a couple of posies of rare flowers, mean nothing to these people, our protests need to rely on sound evidience of effects on the local infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its no good going on and on about AONB. Nearly half of the AONB&#8217;s Council is made up of reps from Denbighshire &amp; Flintshire County Councils. Both Councils will do well financially from Go-Ape&#8217;s proposals, as will several other interested parties represented on the AONB&#8217;s Council.  Denbighshire in particular is such a money grubbing enterprise, if the could charge people for the wear and tear of the air on the mountain they would. No matter how shrill or hysterical we wail, it will be of no avail against serious financial interests. I have said before and will say again, the fate of a few daft birds and a couple of posies of rare flowers, mean nothing to these people, our protests need to rely on sound evidience of effects on the local infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.moelfamau.co.uk/go-ape-plans-for-moel-famau/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those indicatives route images are very telling. This development would destroy this AONB for good, for ever. Once it has gone, there is no turning the clock back. We owe it to our children and theirs to protect this beautifal part of Wales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those indicatives route images are very telling. This development would destroy this AONB for good, for ever. Once it has gone, there is no turning the clock back. We owe it to our children and theirs to protect this beautifal part of Wales.</p>
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